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Postby jesper » Thu Feb 17, 2005 5:19 pm

Wonka wrote:Fuck me there are some real wankers on this site. None of you have any right to comment on my mental health or how much help I need. If you ever spent the time to get to know me like James Beard and Bill21 did you would realize how pathetic you are being. What's all this fukking hostility for in the first place? Basically it's for bragging about how good I am at KO2 and backing it up isn't it! And what the hell have I ever said that's racist ffs! Yes I have mentioned what I think are differences between races but that's about it. What the fuck is wrong with you guys! Anyway, things are ok at work now as I have explained it's one of you and they understand.

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Postby durban » Thu Feb 17, 2005 6:36 pm

Well thats all sorted then.

There was no editing of anyones posts.

The only issue is why I would post such a thing as I did, I can't even remember posting what I said.

I would like to apologise formally to anyone offended by what I said, it wasn't meant to be aimed at causing problems, it was actually meant to put an end to people responding to the thread as I personally believed it would cause more damage to carry on discussing this as it was just becomming a flame war.

Nikos I am sorry.

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Postby Freshmaker » Thu Feb 17, 2005 6:44 pm

Oy!! Mark!!! Somebody's edited your post!!!
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Postby jesper » Thu Feb 17, 2005 8:04 pm

durban wrote:Well thats all sorted then.
There was no editing of anyones posts.


Rikki admitted this to you?

Did you beleive him when he originally said there was?

My post was aimed at you for not having perspective on the matter. Result was Rikki got
angry with me. I know you said what you said to protect him. Result was the opposite.
Once again Rikki was exposed. Please be honest instead of protecting him with every
possible mean. That doesn't do him any good.

Sorry for beeing an outspoken pain. ;)
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Postby durban » Thu Feb 17, 2005 8:12 pm

I wasn't protecting Rikki, I was attempting to get rid of the situation in a sensible manner by accepting responsibility rather than having the whole topic go down into a flame war.

I was trying to prevent any discussion on it as there was no point. I therefore said I would act, and tried to post an authorotative post so no-one else would need to repply.


However as usual I made the wrong decision, it can't be helped, I thought what I was doing would be the right thing but obviously it wasn't
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Postby durban » Thu Feb 17, 2005 8:17 pm

Ok let me explain my actions.

Rikki posts this bizarre post about people stopping posting under his name.

Now one of two things are gonna happen here.

a) People are going to react and tell him to grow up, he will answer back, the topic will become yet another fight between people.

b) People will jokingly go along with Rikki and say it has happend to them. Other people will start thinking that Mods actually amend the posts on the forum and that will just be lies.


In fact both a and b happened. Therefore my posting, however badly worded it may have seem (how many times do I have to explain that 'words' are a terrible medium thru which to convey an opinion or idea as people generally misread/write them!), was meant to stop either a or b going any further.

I hoped that my reply would put an end to the topic.

That was all I tried to do.

Hope that explains it, I am not taking sides, I am not defending anyone, I am just doing what I thought was the best thing to do.

Simple but ultimately wrong it seems.
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Postby jesper » Thu Feb 17, 2005 8:27 pm

I understand your actions.

Can you answer my two questions from above?
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Postby durban » Thu Feb 17, 2005 8:32 pm

In answer.

Rikki didn't admit this no, but it was pretty obvious from the start.

Thus the second answer is no I didn't, but thats not really the point I guess, my actions were based on other reasons.

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Postby jesper » Thu Feb 17, 2005 8:52 pm

Sorry Durban, but if you didn't believe the allegations put forward Rikki against
the moderators, but still played along his imaginary thoughts, then I cannot
believe you when you say that you don't try to defend him. Everyone knows
Rikki posts "random" stuff and nobody takes him seriously. This is sad.
Lets be honest about it instead of laughing it off or playing along. You should
know by now that people gets pissed off by that.
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Postby durban » Thu Feb 17, 2005 8:57 pm

Well to be honest there have been several accusations in the past that moderators amend posts, read pm's and basically do things that are completely untrue.

Therefore if it was thought in the past then surely it could be thought again?

I am not getting into an argument about my actions, I did what I thought was right at the time and looking back I did the wrong thing and have apologised for it.
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Postby durban » Thu Feb 17, 2005 8:59 pm

He wasn't actually accusing the moderators as far as I am aware, he was saying someone was using his account, ie they got hold of his password somehow and were posting things..

If he had accused the moderators of amending posts then I would have not the comment I did.
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Postby jesper » Thu Feb 17, 2005 9:20 pm

Well, that was the way I understood his initial post.

Anyway, closing down Wonka discussions only lasts for so long.
They will always pop up again. THATS the real problem.

Frankly speaking:

Originally everyone agreed on banning Wonka as far as I know.
This was a correct decission.

Last year a few people wanted the ban lifted. No one agreed and
hell broke loose. Without consensus the ban was later on lifted.
That was an unfortunate mistake.

Only way to solve the problem is ban him for good!

There you have it.

(I know you are not supposed to say stuff like that, but nobody told me)
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Postby manicx » Thu Feb 17, 2005 10:06 pm

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