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Any Team, Any League, Anywhere! (The Club Footy Thread)

Postby gdh82 » Sun Aug 01, 2010 5:59 pm

It's that time of year but rather than start the usual premiership thread, thought I'd have a go at something broader. This is an open thread for all footy fans across the KOA countries to post anything about what's going on in your footy world. Could be interesting!

Feel welcome to post any predictions, the odd result or league table or any stories about your team, your league. Anything club footy related - we wanna hear it! :)

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If nothing else, this thread was a good excuse to check out some logos - hehe - half of which I haven't seen before.
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Postby gdh82 » Sun Aug 01, 2010 6:19 pm

Let's kick off with the EPL, the not so 'English' Premier League. The top-4 is a pretty exclusive group, made up usually of Man U, Chelsea, Arsenal, Liverpool, though Spurs broke into it last season. I'm looking forward to see how Liverpool do under Hodgson but if I was to predict the next title I'd go for Man U, who are always a safe bet...

Premiership Title Winners
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1993–94 Manchester United
1994–95 Blackburn Rovers
1995–96 Manchester United
1996–97 Manchester United
1997–98 Arsenal
1998–99 Manchester United
1999–2000 Manchester United
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2004–05 Chelsea
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I wonder how Rooney will start the season? And I gather Chelsea are without Drogba for the opening matches. Maybe we might see another challenger this year after all?

As a Birmingham City fan my focus is usually much lower down the league anyway! Our 9th position finish last year was our best top flight finish in 51 years apparently!!! The same again would be nice but realistically our target (probably like the bottom half of teams) is to simply avoid relegation. Newly promoted teams, Newcastle, West Brom and Blackpool are likely to be in the same boat too.
Premiership Table 09/10
Team P W D L F A GD PTS
1 Chelsea 38 27 5 6 103 32 71 86
2 Man Utd 38 27 4 7 86 28 58 85
3 Arsenal 38 23 6 9 83 41 42 75
4 Tottenham 38 21 7 10 67 41 26 70
5 Manchester City 38 18 13 7 73 45 28 67
6 Aston Villa 38 17 13 8 52 39 13 64
7 Liverpool 38 18 9 11 61 35 26 63
8 Everton 38 16 13 9 60 49 11 61
9 Birmingham 38 13 11 14 38 47 -9 50
10 Blackburn 38 13 11 14 41 55 -14 50
11 Stoke City 38 11 14 13 34 48 -14 47
12 Fulham 38 12 10 16 39 46 -7 46
13 Sunderland 38 11 11 16 48 56 -8 44
14 Bolton 38 10 9 19 42 67 -25 39
15 Wolves 38 9 11 18 32 56 -24 38
16 Wigan Athletic 38 9 9 20 37 79 -42 36
17 West Ham Utd 38 8 11 19 47 66 -19 35
18 Burnley 38 8 6 24 42 82 -40 30
19 Hull City 38 6 12 20 34 75 -41 30
20 Portsmouth 38 7 7 24 34 66 -32 19
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Re: Any Team, Any League, Anywhere! The Club Footy Thread 1

Postby coldie » Sun Aug 01, 2010 9:10 pm

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Postby Tripod » Mon Aug 02, 2010 7:04 am

The Bundesliga, the place where young and technically skilled German team comes from! The English top-4 group is a one-team show here in Germany, as always Bayern is the only real favorite for the title. Usually the only question is: Who'll take the positions right behind Munich? Lately it's been either Schalke or Werder Bremen. Hamburg has been throwing a lot of money at a mediocre team in the last... decade or so, always thought to be in the top 3 at the end of the season and disappointing every time, either just making or missing the Uefa Cup (Europa League).

My team Hertha got relegated, so whether I want to or not, I'll have to concentrate on the 2nd division. We are firm favorites for promotion, we managed to persuade some good players to stick with us and haven't done too badly on the transfer market. But you never know, the 2nd division is tough and if we don't go back up after one year the team will probably fall apart and we have to start from scratch.
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Re: Any Team, Any League, Anywhere! The Club Footy Thread 1

Postby gdh82 » Mon Aug 02, 2010 5:32 pm

coldie wrote:Image

Austrian League

Favorite Team: SK PUNTIGAMER STURM GRAZ (playing against Tiflis in the actual qualifying round)


Thanks Michael. Logo added to top post, along with the Football League for Forest fans amongst others! :)
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Postby gdh82 » Mon Aug 02, 2010 5:37 pm

Tripod wrote:My team Hertha got relegated, so whether I want to or not, I'll have to concentrate on the 2nd division. We are firm favorites for promotion, we managed to persuade some good players to stick with us and haven't done too badly on the transfer market. But you never know, the 2nd division is tough and if we don't go back up after one year the team will probably fall apart and we have to start from scratch.


It's a tough one: relegation-threatened season in the top-flight vs promotion-chasing season in the second tier. Birmingham have had their fair share of relegation/promotions and although everyone wants to be in the Prem, its probably more fun getting there, rather than being there! Good luck to Hertha anyway.
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Postby Kostas O » Wed Aug 04, 2010 11:16 am

I expected other greeks would do this out of courtesy (i wouldn't want to brag!) but i am a gavros so i will :D

Club Number last
Olympiacos Pireaus 37 08/09
Panathinaikos Athens 20 09/10
AEK Athens 11 93/94
Aris Thessaloniki 3 45/46
PAOK Thessaloniki 2 84/85
AE Larisa 1 87/88

So we are tie at the moment with the others at the pole position. It will be a hard but very fun year for us.
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Postby Tripod » Wed Aug 04, 2010 1:58 pm

gdh82 wrote:It's a tough one: relegation-threatened season in the top-flight vs promotion-chasing season in the second tier. Birmingham have had their fair share of relegation/promotions and although everyone wants to be in the Prem, its probably more fun getting there, rather than being there! Good luck to Hertha anyway.


Well, we had a terrible season. We were 4th the previous year and mostly held positions 3 to 8 before. So we thought we were part of the establishment that cannot be relegated - sadly, this was proven wrong. So the hope is that it was just an accident, we'll get promoted again immediately and establish outselves at least in mid-table afterwards. I'm sceptical, of course, we are taking a finanical risk with a squad that should do ok in the Bundesliga and thus rule the second division, but if that doesn't work out, we'll have to cut back considerably. And the competition even for mid-table spots has definitely increased in the last few years, champs of yesteryear with a strong fanbase and huge stadiums have returned - Gladbach, Nürnberg, Frankfurt, Köln, Kaiserslautern and so on. All of those had troubles before we did, also got relegated and some had to stay in division 2 for a while. So the good news is, these big names have all returned, but the bad news is, there's just too many of them.

We have Bayern Munich, the German king of clubs. And then there's a lot of competition for the next spots (if Bayern has a bad season possibly the championship): Schalke, Dortmund, Hamburg. Big cities, huge stadiums, average attendances close to the capacity of 61000, 77000 and 55000 respectively. Bremen lags behind a bit (attendance of 36000 puts it only in 12th place in the Bundesliga), but the management is doing an amazing job of buying excellent players at fairly cheap prices and selling them for much more (Mertesacker and Özil are currently the candidates). And there are hardly any small clubs around that can easily be ignored or beaten (which is why the Bundesliga is quite exciting imho). Stuttgart, Gladbach, Cologne, Frankfurt aren't lagging far behind. And then there are Leverkusen, Wolfsburg and Hoffenheim. The first two belong to big corporations (Bayer and Volkswagen), which isn't allowed in German football, but for some reason never given to the public these two are exceptions to the rule. And Hoffenheim's Hopp is our first "Abramovich", founder of SAP, a proper billionaire who decided to take over the club in town he grew up in, population 3000. With his financial aid the club was basically promoted every year all the way from the 8th to the 1st division (the Bundesliga). He doesn't buy the biggest names, he tries to keep it somewhat more low profile, but Hoffenheim definitely has a competitive squad. Hopp claims he'll stay out of it from now on, the club will have to fund itself, of course it's easier after he built the club a new stadium (not in Hoffenheim anymore) and just about the best training grounds in Germany. As well as a few dozen youth clubs, of course. And I'm not sure he can resist pumping in more money until the club wins the title, we'll have to wait and see. That leaves Hannover and Nürnberg, also attendances close to 50000, also pretty well established. If only Hertha hadn't been relegated I would count them, too. And that just leaves the three spots for relegation (2 1/2 actually, we now have a play off again). Attendance (and thus budget) wise at least. Of course some of these small coubs can surprise and play much better than expected - one season. But in the long run, it's tough. I guess that's the situation Birmingham City is in, too.
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Postby Freshmaker » Wed Aug 04, 2010 4:33 pm

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Postby gdh82 » Wed Aug 04, 2010 8:08 pm

Very interesting reading, your low-down on the German league, Alex.

Tripod wrote:Well, we had a terrible season. We were 4th the previous year and mostly held positions 3 to 8 before. So we thought we were part of the establishment that cannot be relegated - sadly, this was proven wrong.


That must have been a shocker for all involved. I bet there was lots of talk of "they're too good to go down" but I guess like in the premiership, even the lesser clubs are generally well organised/difficult to beat so when things go wrong, it can be extremely difficult to turn around. I remember many saying that a big club like Newcastle Utd would beat the drop but they didn't. They are returning this year though.

Birmingham would love to be an 'established' premiership team but we not there yet. Many would agree that we played above ourselves last year in finishing 9th, plus it was our first season back in the top flight. This could be second season syndrome where everyone's a little wiser to us, and we might not have that spring in our step you feel when you're back in the back league. Still, hopefully, ex-Scotland manager, Alex McLeish, can steer us through....

One thing's for sure, we now have the tallest striker in the premiership, having signed the Serbian giant, Nikola Zigic !!! I guess the direction of our football will be 'upwards' from now on! :lol:
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Postby Binary » Thu Aug 05, 2010 12:24 pm

I have no info on the Irish league, but...

...in Portugal, Benfica, "champions" last year (trying hard to avoid more conspiracy theories) have sold only 2 players and kept most of their core team, buying Roberto, an extra keeper for 8.5M from Zaragoza, who has been proving very disappointing in the preparation games so far. They're favorites this year again.

Porto and Sporting, 2 contenders, have decided to sign up somewhat unknown portuguese coaches. Porto seems to be even worse than last year, Sporting slightly better, judging from preparation games.

Braga, the surprise of last year, sold 1 or 2 key players (including the keeper Eduardo, possibly best PT player in the WC), but is still looking solid, having just beaten Celtic (4-2 aggregate) on their attempt to reach the Champions League. They're keeping their promising coach, although he will most likely be snatched by Porto if something goes wrong there.

My team Boavista, champions in 2001, relegated in 2007 or so by league officials to our 2nd League B due to, allegedly, part of a corruption scandal, have been found not guilty in court of all charges. They will now demand compensation. Unfortunately, due to these years of being away from the 1st League and also due to poor management, they're bankrupt or close enough. I doubt they will get back up, financially or otherwise :(
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Postby gdh82 » Thu Aug 05, 2010 5:28 pm

Binary wrote:My team Boavista, champions in 2001, relegated in 2007 or so by league officials to our 2nd League B due to, allegedly, part of a corruption scandal, have been found not guilty in court of all charges. They will now demand compensation. Unfortunately, due to these years of being away from the 1st League and also due to poor management, they're bankrupt or close enough. I doubt they will get back up, financially or otherwise :(


Blimey, must be so hard to experience that happen to your team. :(
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Re: Any Team, Any League, Anywhere! The Club Footy Thread 1

Postby gdh82 » Sun Aug 08, 2010 11:52 am

Sat 7 August
Norwich City 2 v 3 Watford 24,348
Bristol City 0 v 3 Millwall 18,308
Burnley 1 v 0 Nottm Forest 17,496
Coventry City 2 v 0 Portsmouth 0
Crystal Palace 3 v 2 Leicester City 17,486
Hull City 2 v 0 Swansea City 21,478
Middlesbrough 1 v 3 Ipswich Town 21,882
Preston 0 v 2 Doncaster 12,190
QPR 4 v 0 Barnsley 13,445
Reading 1 v 2 Scunthorpe 15,914
Leeds United 1 v 2 Derby County 26,761


The Football League including England's 2nd tier, the Championship kicked off over the weekend. I see Neil Warnock's QPR are grabbing all the headlines but it wasn't the start Forest were hoping for, though Burnley will have their eye on an quick return to the top-flight. What's your chances on going better than the play-offs this season, Robert? Who do you think will be the challengers?
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