Clean sliding tacles..

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Clean sliding tacles..

Postby Menace » Sun Nov 27, 2005 11:10 pm

I haven't played KO for 10 years or so until todays mini-tournament.. one thing that I'd forgotten that came back to haunt me was that I couldn't make clean sliding tackles.. - even if you get the ball first its almost always a foul..

I had plenty of bookings and sending-offs and in some cases I think it was the reason I lost quite a few matches (playing with out defenders obviously isn't easy)..

Do you share my impression that you can't make clean sliding tackles in KO -or that 9 out of 10 times its a foul - or am I totally wrong here..?
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Postby alkis21 » Sun Nov 27, 2005 11:17 pm

You're not totally wrong, but clean tackles *are* possible. You just have to get the right timing.
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Postby Menace » Sun Nov 27, 2005 11:29 pm

Ok, thx.. of course it happened a few times that the other guy would just get flattened and you could play on - but it felt random to me.. and like I said 9/10 it was a foul even if the ball was hit first.. but I guess with lots of practice and talent you could get away with it more often

- was surprised though how little the others used sliding tackles.. but I've also noticed it from KOA videos..

Too bad.. I love a crunching tackle especially if the other guys is carried off on a stretcher :twisted:
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Postby Robert » Sun Nov 27, 2005 11:38 pm

Dennis, basically a slide tackle is not normally a good idea. Really it's very rash to try one in the box. The best time to use them is when you know your opponent is about to do something really bad to you, like they are about to run clear on goal or lob or something. What's in your favour is that the referee doesn't treat 'professional' fouls any different to others - use this to your advantage.

How the referee treats your foul depends on the ref you have got. Some 'bastard' refs to watch out for are: F.Zappa, S.Screech. They can give a straight red for almost anything. A.N.Indi and I.Ball I also find card happy. V.Jones is very straight - he always yellow cards the first foul and red cards the second by each player.

Tackling in KO2 is mainly about using the 'block' where each players' strength goes head-to-head and one can push the ball off the other, or even knock them over, by running at them. You have to learn, however, which players are 'strong' (R.Simpson, R.Cox) and which players are weak (A.Lindsay, E.Curtis) before doing this.

Finally, with timing, you can 'steal' the ball from your opponent. This is done by remembering that, as they run along dribbling, the ball goes tap-tap-tap out in front of them. As the ball is at the extreme of this cycle (ie out in front of the player) you can nip in and take it away.

I hope you give all of the above a try.
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Postby Menace » Sun Nov 27, 2005 11:53 pm

Cheers.. don't mean to sound ungrateful but I'm aware of most of what you wrote (except I can't remember the refs strictness) - but it just annoys me that tackling is kinda taken out of the game..

I want this to be a strong feature in WoF - the same tapping of the ball will happen but making hard sliding tackles (and "surviving" them) will be a major part of the game.. (a single tap will result in an attemped clean tackle while double-tapping the button while sliding will make you deliberately foul the other player)
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Postby Robert » Mon Nov 28, 2005 12:47 am

Dennis, that's fine, I wasn't suggesting that you didn't know these things, but just adding them in case there was anything you didn't. It's a fine line between helping and patronising these days... ;-)
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Postby alkis21 » Mon Nov 28, 2005 7:48 am

Am I the only one who thinks of Dennis' game as Wheel of Fortune? :lol:
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Postby Tripod » Mon Nov 28, 2005 7:59 am

Dennis, I totally understand what you mean - your defender clearly plays the ball and the ref still blows the whistle. Still, somewhat realistic, real referees love the sound of their whistles too much as well! :)
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Postby Abyss » Mon Nov 28, 2005 8:22 am

I think that tackling is really well implemented and you *can* make a clean tackling if you get the timing right - it's not random. The only thing I dont't like is the annoying auto sliding.
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Postby Menace » Mon Nov 28, 2005 9:46 am

Robert Swift wrote:It's a fine line between helping and patronising these days... ;-)


No worries I didn't pick up any patronising on your part at all - I just didn't want to sound like a total noob! =P

Damn Alkis.. that Wheel of Fortune comment really made me laugh.. - well, do you know that Alkis means alkoholic in Swedish? :lol:
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Postby alkis21 » Mon Nov 28, 2005 9:50 am

Menace wrote:well, do you know that Alkis means alkoholic in Swedish? :lol:


I've been told by several Swedish and Norwegian girls during summer vacations on Greek islands. :)
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Postby Menace » Mon Nov 28, 2005 9:56 am

alkis21 wrote:
Menace wrote:well, do you know that Alkis means alkoholic in Swedish? :lol:


I've been told by several Swedish and Norwegian girls during summer vacations on Greek islands. :)


I should've guessed that.. :wink:
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Postby SimonB » Mon Nov 28, 2005 10:27 am

I am the cleanest tackler around
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